The WHOLE truth about shootings

I think guns, cannon and knives (aka: Arms) are tools more than anything else and that, as with any other tool or material, the entire responsibility for their use or misuse lives exclusively with the individual owners of those tools.

I also think there are exceptionally good reasons that our founders enshrined the right of people in the US to own such tools.

I also think that both sides of our mainstream media are gaslighting us on the “issue of guns” by not allowing ANY position but the two most extreme and divisive to gain any traction. The media (both “sides”) actively silence anyone pointing to ANY factor other than guns being a driving force in mass shootings.

They don’t talk at all about the insane increases in wealth inequality where a couple of hundred folks own more wealth than the other 90% of citizens.

Wealth Inequality –

They don’t talk at all about the wage inequality between CEOS and ordinary workers (Who are the ACTUAL wealth creators by their work, but see virtually none of the benefits) we’ve seen grow over the past 40 years from ~30:1 to >300:1 .

Top CEOs Make 300 Times More than Typical Workers: Pay Growth Surpasses Stock Gains and Wage Growth of Top 0.1 Percent

They don’t talk at all about the massive increase of citizens being dumped in our gutters to live or die since Reagan first shuttered California mental hospitals as a response to citizens demanding reforms.

Did Reagan’s Crazy Mental Health Policies Cause Today’s Homelessness?

They don’t talk at all about bullying and the utterly FUBAR response of our schools where kids are punished for standing up to people who understand only superior FORCE along with the will to apply it.

The simple Fact is that folks who aren’t pushed to the absolute edge don’t just randomly start killing their fellow citizens, yet because this is a difficult facet to attack (which would require something akin to a new New Deal) they focus exclusively on guns as being “The Problem.” What we ordinary citizens get is a form of gaslighting called Limiting The Debate where one side screams that “Guns are the problem!” and the “other” side screams “Paws off my guns!” when the reality is that all of these other factors play into the problem far more than the number of guns or the percentage of citizens owning guns.

In point of fact we’ve watched the percentage of families owning guns plummet 34 basis points from 47% of households in 1973 to just 31% in 2014.

Were a sane person to look at the assertion against the real life numbers, one would expect that if guns themselves were actually the root cause of these folks nutting up, the numbers would track in some way, yet we see the exact opposite trend with these incidents increasing by several orders of magnitude (once in 8000 days to now when they’re every 30 to 60 days) even as the percentage of families owning guns plummeted.

In fact according to a 2016 study nearly half of the guns in the US are owned by just 3% of the population. Nearly Half Of Guns In U.S. Owned By 3 Percent Of Population, Study Finds

The interesting thing here is that these folks seem to be the LEAST likely to just nut up and start shooting.

The other interesting thing is that virtually all of these shooters were under som form of mental health treatment and had been either bullied or ostracized or both. Yet none of the media wants to talk about our fucking sick joke of a health “care” system which ignores mental health care as if it were a red headed stepchild and treats everyone as if we should all just hand over our entire damn wallet to them. Obama’s TRUE legacy

What’s been increasing since Bonzo’s breakfast buddy was governor? Untreated mental illness (especially in men) and the numbers of people dumped in our gutters to live or die as their luck permits.

Here’s some of the other things which have increased in line with the increased frequency of mass shootings..

Inside the Foreclosure Crisis

Civil Asset Forfeiture Skyrocketed Under Obama

Our damned congresscritters ignoring what we citizens need to service their bribers.. Corruption is legal.. For the wealthy ONLY.

The wars for profit..

General Wesley Clark – Seven Countries in Five Years

A few basic arguments against (military) interventionism

Where did that estimated to become $6 Trillion go? Not to ordinary citizens!

The 25 Most Vicious Iraq War Profiteers

Heinlein once said “Never try to take anything from a man who feels he has nothing left left to lose.. He may just kill you.”

There’s another gent who echoed that fact not too long ago..

Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming

THESE are the patterns we need to shift and reverse and “attacking the problem” by banning or *cough* controlling the TOOL will do exactly fuck all to actually reduce these mass killings.

Ignoring these patterns and pointing at “Guns are THE problem!” is directly equivalent to going to the ER for a raging leg infection and demanding antibiotics, while also demanding that the doctor ignore the end of your femur sticking out of your thigh.

On government abuse of our Bill of Rights

The Amendments most commonly abused* in the US are the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments.

*Actually they’re drug into dark alleys by judges in the name of “order and safety” then mugged, beaten to within an inch of their lives, raped, and left for dead. Abused just doesn’t quite cover it.

Oh.. For The Record: Our Constitution and it’s Amendments were written in the plain English of the day so that ordinary citizens could read and make sense of them without any need for “experts” so yes. I do think I have a better grasp of what it actually says than SCOTUS ever has because I don’t stand to profit from imprisoning people and I’m not beholden to anyone who does. Doubt me?

Follow the Money: The School-to-(Privatized)-Prison Pipeline – NEA Today

Also.. Dred Scott. Seriously Bitches??

Also the utter fucking fascist idiocy that citizens must have been damaged and be able to prove that damage (Standing) before we can “legitimately” challenge unconstitutionally formed laws by OUR representatives. Standing has a place in civil matters. It has no legitimate place when an individual citizen wishes to challenge a law as being in violation of the Constitutional limits placed upon Our government.

Here’s the 4th:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

There are enough “legalized” loopholes carved out of this one that you could literally drive an aircraft carrier through it without even touching the sides.

Here what it actually says:

The people (not citizens, but people. Aka: anyone on US soil) have an absolute right to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects (property like briefcases, backpacks, phones, computers, or anything else they might own or carry) from “unreasonable” searches and seizures and that this right shall not be violated (no exceptions, no excuses, no wiggle room) then it goes on to define a “reasonable” search or seizure as being one which is supported by a Warrant which warrant SHALL BE based upon Probable Cause (not “exigencies” or sniffing weed or looking suspicious nor even possessing a gun while black) and which shall be supported by Oath or Affirmation. Said warrant SHALL also specifically name what it who is being searched for and the specific place to be searched. It also says that no (that’s 0.00 for folks unclear about math) Warrants shall be issued without all of those elements in place.

If any one of these elements is missing then the warrant is invalid on its face and thus the search is as well (at least according to what the Amendment actually SAYS).

Don’t y’all even think about starting with me with the “but criminals” bullshit here because we all know that anyone on parole or probation has legally given up that Right (for the duration of the parole) in exchange for the privilege of being released from jail or prison early. This is completely aside from the fact that well over 50% of our “felons” are guilty of 100% made the fuck up bullshit “crimes” via the false flag, utterly fascist and completely racist War On Drugs (which is just as purely illegal under the Constitution as banning alcohol was prior to the 18th Amendment) ‘War On Drugs’ Was A Racist Fraud All Along, Ex- Nixon Advisor Admits

“Interstate Commerce” evasion? Fuck You! If that were HONESTLY applied instead of being done the way fascism does it it would not ever apply to drugs created and sold within the same state. Yet that’s the exact opposite of what was and is actually done.

Next up is the Fifth Amendment which covers a fair bit of ground about arrest powers and thieving, murdering, thugs with badges.

No person shall be held to answer (that means arrested by the way.. Which harks back to the systematic gutting and evasion of the 4th Amendment by SC(R)OTUS) for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; (THIS bit means that cops absolutely do NOT EVER get to kill, or even harm, you or your property without a TRIAL AND CONVICTION) nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Oh and just completely FUCK both D.A.P.L. and Keystone sideways too along with every D & R Congresscritter who said nothing about these blatant violations! Kris Rosvold’s answer to What is the most bizarre lawsuit you know that ever happened in the US?)

Sixth Amendment

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

What’s interesting with this one is that first limitation..

“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial,..”

Then we look at the fascist evasion of “well, that’s only if they demand a trial” against the systematic and fraudulent denial if Rights to poor folks via the use of forced “plea bargaining” by stacking the deck so heavily against the defendant that the tiniest mis step during a trial could land you in prison for decades. They literally leave you ZERO actual choice because the only game available (unless you’re wealthy of course) is “If you ‘deal’ with us we’ll ‘only’ charge you with a 6 month penalty, but if you dare to not comply We WILL charge you with at least a decade worth of crimes (even if we have to lie our asses off).” These sorts of “deals” are exactly like asking someone if they’d rather be pinched or have their arms and legs broken and it’s all done effectively at gun point. No matter how minor the crime, if you fight them at all and you’re poor they WILL make an example of you. There is no sane way to claim that this sort if Mafia style “deal” satisfies the repeated demands for Due Process Of Law throughout our Constitution.

What the Fifth and Sixth actually say is that trials are NOT “optional” and that trial by jury must be part and parcel of any legitimate justice system, in each and every case.

As Jefferson said “It is better that one hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man be condemned.”

That goal of preserving the innocent from the predations of a fascist society is the motivation behind the writing, passage, and Ratification of these Amendments.. And we have failed utterly.

Innocence Is Irrelevant

Due Process is Dead: A Staggering 95% of All Inmates in America Have Never Received a Trial

Will this “break” our justice system? Probably. Considering that it is utterly corrupt and fraudulent, as are the drug laws under which more than 50% of all inmates are “convicted*” under, I think that might not be a bad thing.

*”convicted” in over 95% of US cases actually means “Strong armed into admitting “guilt” whether or not you actually committed any crime.”

I’ll refer you back to the words of Mr. Jefferson on this fact and if you tell me that’s impractical I’ll damned well ask you how “practical” it is to imprison even ONE factually innocent person because y’all are too damned lazy and greedy to do the job we pay you for. More to the point I’ll ask you how practical it would be for a DA who forced a plea from an innocent person with these Mafia style tactics to serve their time by way of retribution.

Note: I’m still in the process of writing this so there’s more to come..

I think this question and the issues it raises are important enough that I decided to go ahead and post what I have thus far and then update it as it progresses over the next few days.

Yup. They’re still gassing our meat.

Restaurants have never used ammonia for washing food to preserve it. Some suppliers still do which is why I refuse to eat pre formed ready to cook burger pattys or chicken nuggets.

What happened was that a major meat processors (notably a McDonald’s supplier called BPI) used to use anhydrous ammonia to sanitize meat trimmings before grinding it into the infamous pink slime shit* and mixing it with our burger meat as a binder for cheap burger patties and chicken nuggets.

*Which was made up with cutting floor trimmings formerly relegated to be dog food at best, or rendered into grease)

Safety of Beef Processing Method Is Questioned

Their theory was that the ammonia would evaporate off after having killed the bad bacteria they were having a problem with (E.Coli, Listeria, Salmonella and a few others). They were having this problem because their speed of production, and use of floor s crapings, didn’t allow for proper sanitizing and because they are fucking greedy and were trying to sell sub standard meat at the higher prices they got for people food.

“Our” “regulators” signed off on this plan and even exempted them from regular testing.

This practice of sanitizing meat is still used in big slaughter houses to increase shelf life beyond what could be normally expected by flushing the individual packages with ammonia.. Ever notice that ammonia smell on some grocery store meat when you first open the puffy package? Yup. I won’t name names but if you see a store with all the meat package trays puffed up (especially fresh meats) they’ve been preserved with ammonia.

Welcome to the Corporate Fascist States of America where “regulators” obey corporations rather than doing their ONE fucking Job for citizens.

Oh.. If y’all don’t think that’s the definition of fascism, I’ll ask you to look up the words of its creator Mussolini who defined it as the merging of State and Corporate power..

Like this shit:

Big Brother says “FUCK YOU PEONS!!”

Yes. They are listening to everything you do whether you like it or not. Big Brother in the guise of Book of Faces (and Google, and Twatter, and.. And.. And.. And..) is absolutely listening to your every word and absolutely is tracking your every move, every search, and every website you visit.

No. “Turning off” the location function and the WiFi on your devices does NOT make any difference to whether they track you or not. It’s kind of like the mythical “Close Door” button on shopping mall elevators. It only gives you the appearance of having some control over your situation so you don’t get frustrated and start wrecking shit when you realize just how bad it really is.

I’m very conscientious (to the point of it being an automatic reflex) about leaving my location and WiFi functions on my phone switched Off unless I’m actively using them for my purposes. Yet I periodically (a few times a week) get “notifications” from Google (or Yelp or Facebook when I had them installed..) to Rate a Place or Check In or Location Tag a picture of just taken.. EVEN WITH THOSE LOCATION FUNCTIONS ACTIVELY SWITCHED OFF.

Those elevator “Door Close” buttons don’t have ANY effect on what the elevator is going to do unless one of two conditions exist:

  1. You have a Fire Key and/or a Control Key and that key switch is set to Fire or Control.
  2. The door close timer has timed out.

Welcome to Nineteen Eighty-Four. Yes, it was supposed to be a warning to us and the oligarchy stole it for use as an instruction manual.

How to keep your smart TV from spying on you | ZDNet

Oh… unless you’re an exhibitionist, I really wouldn’t recommend having any of your fun time anywhere within view or hearing of ANY smart device! You’ll be wanking in public. Why y’all think Zuck keeps a post it note over each his computer/device cameras?!

Smartphones, PCs and TVs: the everyday devices targeted by the CIA

How Stores Are Spying On You – disinformation

Sites Spying on You in Weird New Ways, Princeton Study Exposes

It’s not just websites and corporations either. Governments are also looking at, tracking, and recording every communication you make.

FBI, CIA Use Backdoor Searches To Warrentlessly Spy On Americans’ Communications

Its so insanely extreme that they’re building massive new data centers to record, process, and analyze, everything you do, everyone you talk or write to, and everywhere you go. Since about 2010 or a bit before it’s to the point where any decent lawyer won’t even consider using email for any but the most generic client communications. Privileged communication is always face to face or by snail mail if they’ve half a brain.

Welcome to Utah, the NSA’s desert home for eavesdropping on America

And no.. You’re NOT allowed to use any ^effective^ encryption software either.

Report: NSA Paid RSA $10M to Create ‘Back Door’ in Encryption Software

Sorry, serf.

What’s particularly interesting about this is that I can set my phone to switch the WiFi on or off based on location but I CAN NOT do the same for location.. It would be easy to do by simply making the switch dependant on if a WiFi I’ve approved was in range or not but its not set up that way.

Its also interesting that my old phone (by default) showed me on the home screen whether these are on or off but zero of the new phones are “capable” of that, and instead of being able to switch them on or off from my home screen, I now have to wade through 2 menus to get to the location function switch.

I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find that my next “NBFU” “Upgrade” phone won’t even give me the option to switch location off.

If that’s the case I may well end up digging out my old milspec Motorola Flip.


Home Sweet Hackable Smart Home

Seriously People! Quit.

Oh… on that fascist, Orwellian “PATRIOT” Act shit which gives them fraudulent “permission” to do this crap .. Here’s the Truth: Kris Rosvold’s answer to You are able to write one law, which would instantly pass without voting, and the law would prohibit you to write more laws, what law would you write?

There’s a REASON for 2A, there’s ALSO a solution

The 2nd Amendment says that we Citizens have an unrestricted Right to own weapons (aka: Arms) word for word after all the explanatory language it says: “The Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

Now, many folks assert (falsely btw) that the bit about a “well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State…” is a limiting phrase. It isn’t, it’s an explanatory phrase. It’s a discussion of why the absolute injunction is necessary. Also, in the parlance of the day the term “well regulated” meant well supplied rather than well controlled. I know this because in ’70s Tennessee Boy Scouts we were often told to “go regulate yourselves for the firing range” meaning go get your gun & ammo.

However, even at that, the militia has LONG been defined as “every able male between the ages of 17 and 45” because these are the folks who were to be called to Service in the event of a war, or any other need for troops. What you have to remember is that when the Constitution was drafted there was to be only one “standing force” which was the Navy.

The rank and file Army was designed to be essentially disbanded in peace time, and was intended as a strictly temporary force so far as the Nation and the States were concerned. Most of the officers even went home after the action was over. This is the reason that the writers of Our Constitution specifically limited funding for the Army to two years at a time while (most carefully) placing no such limitation on funding for the Navy.

Last but not least the term “well regulated” is often asserted as another limiting factor… Um… no, sorry, it’s not a limiting phrase in the context of the day. Common usage for “well regulated” today is “controlled or ordered” there was much more to the usage back when. In the parlance of the day “regulated” meant “in good order (working condition), and ready for action.” Thus a “well regulated” militia had the gear and uniforms (supplies) necessary for the job and that gear was in in good working order. In this context “well regulated” = “well supplied” in modern parlance. As in the compliment I heard in the Navy: “He’s a regulation sailor.” Meaning; the person is in proper uniform and has all the gear needed for the job, in good working order. Or the instruction we often heard in 1970s Boy Scouts: “Go regulate yourself for the firing range.” meaning; go gather your gear and amunition, and make sure it’s ready for action.” It’s also about discipline, but it’s much more about having what you need to do the job, and keeping your tools/equipment/uniform in good working order. Well Regulated The Random House College Dictionary (1980) gives four definitions for the word “regulate,” which were all in use during the Colonial period and one more definition dating from 1690 (Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition, 1989). They are: 1) To control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc. 2) To adjust to some standard or requirement as for amount, degree, etc. 3) To adjust so as to ensure accuracy of operation. 4) To put in good order. [obsolete sense] b. Of troops: Properly disciplined. Obs. rare-1. 1690 Lond. Gaz. No. 2568/3 We hear likewise that the French are in a great Allarm in Dauphine and Bresse, not having at present 1500 Men of regulated Troops on that side. If you use today’s meaning, the above quoted statement makes only a little sense, if you use the real meaning then the reason the French “were in great Alarm” becomes blatantly apparent… they had troops but not enough arms to properly regulate those troops. (supply or prepare for duty) suggestion: Look up the term militia at Blacks dictionary of Law or another legal (vs. common usage) dictionary. 11/25/14 After dome discussion in Comments I need to clarify my position a bit. I absolutely agree that there are grievous problems with how we regulate gun ownership but believe that banning guns is a blatantly false solution to a very real set of problems. To expand on this: In response to an assertion that guns have a valid purpose and that purpose isn’t shooting up schools or theatres: I agree, with qualifications… However, part and parcel of the Rights to Life, and Liberty, is the Right to defend yourself against aggression whatever the source. There are a number of problems Our society has around guns, the mere existence of them isn’t one of those. By that inane “logic” we “should” ban eating utensils because they make people obese. (Note that obesity causes far more deaths and disease per year than guns ever have.) Or perhaps cars. Here are the real problems we need to deal with (and which “our” government and media so studiously and conveniently ignore completely): The War on Drugs. By artificially making illegal that which some 39% of the population is going to do,it creates violence, and draws gang activity, in just the exact same way the 18th Amendment caused the Mafia to take over alcohol production and sales. These fraudulent prohibitions also feed school shootings because drug dealers intentionally recruit poor kids due to their limited legal exposure. The complete lack of any Mental Health Care System: This allows folks in severe emotional and mental pain and whose executive functions are impaired by that pain and are disconnected from reality to harm themselves and others with no option by their families to force treatment. The mother of kid who murdered (my cousin knows her) had tried for +3 years years to get some sort of forced treatment for her son because he refused to participate. The courts were useless in her pleas for help. I find it extremely disengenuious that the media was told this and spent not even a paragraph on it! This lack in Our society are a proximate cause of school shootings. It played into Columbine, Sandy Hook, and (I would assert) every other school shooting since because Sane folks simply do not do such things! Poverty in entire communities combined with a broken education system. This leaves young folks with few to no valid options for a decent survival without turning to crime. If folks have valid options for a decent life they NEVER, EVER, say “I want to be a criminal. Our society takes away those options. This is another issue which the media, and our government most conveniently and studiously avoid like the plague. Lack of effective ways to legally identify those who are, in fact, incompetent to own or use weapons. We, in this nation still allow those with assault and battery convictions and spousal or child abuse charges pending to own weapons. Again… not one F’ing word from media or government on this when insane folks shoot up the place, or allow their kids access to weapons. These are the problems We as a Nation need to address, and our government and media are almost completely silent about when these tragedies occur through Our negligence and Our refusal to Properly Identify the REAL causative factors!

On the asshatted idiocy of saying “Love it or leave”

For the Record I’m a progressive rather than a liberal or a conservative.

I honestly don’t care if you’re a Democrat or a Republican. If you’re Stoopid enough to utter the words “Love it or leave it!” in my hearing I will promptly rip you a new one with zero remorse or politeness.

This being a Progressive, contrary to what the Democrat Party Brass would have you believe from their Grand Orwellian Newspeak, means that I look to what serves my fellow citizens best, without any regard to the welfare of either political party, rather than what serves the corporate bribers of our two sets of Party Brass and their game of Three Card Monte*.

Here’s the study he’s talking about:

Here’s a conservative take on it America’s Not an Oligarchy—Yet

Here’s a progressive take on it The US is an oligarchy, study concludes

*Three Card Monte Street Hustle

So what does a progressive look like?

I’m a Navy Veteran (1979 to 1983 ET-2/E5)

I’m anti abortion in MY life but solidly pro-choice for everyone as THEY see fit, while being strongly for fact based, complete, medically accurate, sex education starting at just before puberty, and free contraception to ANYONE who asks for it.

I’m all for school bullies and Nazi fucking wannabes getting punched HARD.

I’m also solidly for the strict interpretation of the Second Amendment as disambiguated by The Oregon Constitution in Article 1 §1 and §27

I think the 16th Amendment should be repealed entirely and we should go back to a situation where if the citizens of a state/s believe a federal action is wrong (like 40 fucking years of Wars For Profit) WE have the option to starve them for money.

And last but not least, I think this set of Federal laws should be enforced, by citizens uniting across party lines, upon OUR representatives using literal pitchforks knocking on doors; regardless of the SCOTUS lie that corporations = people. Failing that, and given the insane amount of economic and political power multinational corporations have here; they should ALSO be subject to the restrictions in our Constitution.


Now we get to the meat of my answer:

If y’all want to lose all my respect instantly just say “Love it or leave it” once in my hearing. Had our founding fathers taken that pedantic view we’d still be paying a 150% tax on tea to The Crown.

See, here’s the thing.. A REAL Patriot is the guy who stands up on his hind legs and loudly calls out the wrongs of our government to demand redress and demand that the government COMPLY with our Constitution rather than evade its admittedly (and intentionally) draconian restrictions on their powers.

Unquestioning adoration is only suitable in small children.

I love my fellow citizens well enough that I chose to put my life in the line to protect our Constitution. I’ll also note that there’s not one single word in that oath I took which says I’m to protect the government or their corporate bribers.

So, without further ado..

Don’t EVER say “Love it or leave it” to this Navy Vet!!

Saying such a thing to ANYONE in my hearing, in real life, will land you smack dab in the exact geographic epicenter of a proper raging shit storm. Y’all think your DI was bad? I can blister paint at 20 paces in three languages. I was also RPOC For a Drill Team Company in Boot.. So y’all know I can sound off at length at 115 DbM on Soldier Field.